Curse

blood raven · Jan 19, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

i started the elite tryouts with my newfounded pvp w/r and found the tryouts pretty tough with henchies...

after realizing that the AIs have rechargeable rez sigs i thought up and idea...

maybe ill put up frozen soil.
so iadded to my idea 2 trappers and another axe war..

the idea was to let the trappers trap the door while i set up the soil in the crypt map (or any other map)
and when the AIs rush through the traps me and the other warr just cyclone axe the AIs until they die, becuase the AIs are bunched up in all team categories...

that was so useful. we killed all teams in matters of seconds with flawlesses.
the trapper and illusionary wepon teams just died when they reached the door.
we even got 12 consecutive flawless victories in the elite chalenge (thats beating the 8 person iway AI and the 8 person ele spike AI)

we could farm faction like this forever.
just wanted to let yuo know.

MechFighter · Jan 19, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

anyone special happen with the consecutive wins?

Da Judge · Jan 19, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

I think all you get is a whopping 25 extra faction points

-Edit- Ignore me, I was sure you asked about flawless wins -Edit-

blood raven · Jan 19, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

no nothing...
someone in the team said something would happen after 10 wins but nothing did....
just kept going. i should mention that we did lose to the obsidian flame spike in the 13th match.

crimsonfilms · Jan 19, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

I heard there is a cap after several wins. I think 20.

sun is in us · Jan 19, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

Well the preview time "beta" will give them some time to fix this.....good feedback, perhaps change the AI in PVP.....

Tailon · Jan 20, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25

I doupt that you'll be able to farm it anyway, since you stop gaining faction from these matches at one point. We just went in, had 7 conc. then wiped. Went back in, and got no faction until the 8th concecutive win.

complexiator · Jan 20, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

HIghest me and my team came was 15 consec. wins. We had 3 trappers and 1 bonder. The traps didn't work corectly as it seamed. Sometimes the train of oponents just ran right through without trigering it and leaving us worried about the outcome.

Congratulations on the spiker build to Anet btw. Its fun to see the NPC's cast obsidian flame simultanuously on one target.

theclam · Jan 20, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

My experience agrees with what Tailon says. It seems that there's only a limited amount of faction that can be obtained through the new Zaishen battles.

SantaClause · Jan 20, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14

You can go back to the very first battles from Nameless..........

5 maps = Total faction per match * 5
4 kills per match = 20*4 = 80 faction
25*2 bonus = 50 faction
Total faction per match = 130
Total for Nameless training= 650 faction

You can do these 5 battles w/ henchies in about 8 minutes or less. (3 min for kill count, <2 min for preist, ~1 min for each other, not counting pre battle time and zoning time).

This leaves you with 650 faction / 8 min = 81.25 faction/min.

~1,000,000 faction needed to unlock everything therefore:
1,000,000(faction) / 81.25(faction/min) = 12,308 minutes = 205.13 hours = 8.547 days of farming 24/7 with no interupts or errors for total unlock.

This should help a few people out trying to unlock some basic skills.

theclam · Jan 20, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SantaClause

You can go back to the very first battles from Nameless..........

5 maps = Total faction per match * 5
4 kills per match = 20*4 = 80 faction
25*2 bonus = 50 faction
Total faction per match = 130
Total for Nameless training= 650 faction

You can do these 5 battles w/ henchies in about 8 minutes or less. (3 min for kill count, <2 min for preist, ~1 min for each other, not counting pre battle time and zoning time).

This leaves you with 650 faction / 8 min = 81.25 faction/min.

~1,000,000 faction needed to unlock everything therefore:
1,000,000(faction) / 81.25(faction/min) = 12,308 minutes = 205.13 hours = 8.547 days of farming 24/7 with no interupts or errors for total unlock.

This should help a few people out trying to unlock some basic skills.

I tried that. Didn't work. Only gave me the faction the first time through.

Anarkii · Jan 20, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Same with me. Win 7 matches and u get the factions...the next time, you wont be getting ANYTHING till the 8th.

They did think about people farming factions

Divinus Stella · Jan 20, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Got loads of faction from the elite area, its just easy wins with earth ele and trapper, trap gates, they run thru half dead, EQ/AS gg.

got a good 7k faction build up so can unlock me some rituality stuff, altho i dont have a free slot to use em yet.

Phades · Jan 20, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

I do find it amusing that most "balanced" teams do fine against most everything, but the VIM trappers; yet the VIM trappers can be solod by 1 frag mesmer and enough time.

Sereng Amaranth · Jan 20, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

one guy said his team had 28 wins in elite

Lord Mendes · Jan 20, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47

so u cant finish elite?

The undead Mesmer · Jan 20, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Btw i dont get faction at all when i am doing those challenges.

Maddie · Jan 20, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

you start again with getting faction when you logout each time..

though what build should I run for farming faction?

just 2 two trappers, earth ele..

and the 4th person what should he be?

SantaClause · Jan 20, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddie

you start again with getting faction when you logout each time..

You don't even need to log out. Just rezone after the 5th match and repeat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddie

though what build should I run for farming faction?

just 2 two trappers, earth ele..

and the 4th person what should he be?

It is so easy it does not matter. I used henchies with sword W/Mo, something you will never see in live PvP win.

Amused Observer · Jan 20, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08

The easiest way to farm faction is w/ 2 trappers, a nuker, and a protector. The protector has to throw up protective spirit quickly on the target of an earth spike. The nuker should use one shot damage spell like ob flame or meteor to supplement trap damage.